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James Tribble

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 Wink  Is there a standard definition for "Points off Turnovers".  We know when a team commits a turnover for by definition.  After that turnover, when does the opportunity to generate "Points off Turnovers" end?


I can not find it defined in the NCAA scoring guidelines or anywhere else but every sports writer is always listing it.

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This question was answered by me, a certain time ago (see below: Related Messages - 14/02/04):

"Points off Turnovers are the points given by our TO or made by the turnovers forced to the opponent.
Forcing turnovers is great, but you have to score points when you get those
 extra chances!
The eBA Stats System records the Points off Turnovers in those two senses."

See below (14/02/04) the discussion of the topic, or / and look for definitions and discussions at the Global basketball Directory


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James Tribble

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Daniel,
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I am caught up in a similar little debate with some BB junkies about points off of turnovers that your reply did not exactly answer.

Some turnovers are continuing action plays (bad passes) and some are interrupted by a stoppage in play (travels, charging fouls, etc) .  Do we count points off of turnovers in each situation even when the defense has a full opportunity to establish itself?

If a shot is missed after the turnover followed by an offensive rebound and a subsequent score, is that still 'points off of the preceding turnover"? 

In other words, when does the opportunity to create points off of a turnover end?

I find it interesting that lots of stories quote points off of turnovers, but a precise definition is hard to find.

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In the next hours we are uploading to the Global basketball Directory three terms which are directly or indirectly answering this question. Please stand by. Thank you !

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"Points Off Turnovers" is the new term uploaded to the
Global basketball Directory just today:
"More of the third of all regular season games played, are "decided by" points off turnovers. When we analyze a basketball game and it is said here that turnover scores were the "deciding factor" in a game, eBA System mean that the turnover points led to one team wining the game and the other losing, and without such turnovers, the won-lost result have been switched.
Points are attributable to turnovers in one of two ways - directly or indirectly. By "directly" leading to a score, eBA System mean that a fumble recovery or interception was returned for a fast break attack, and a score in the First 4/6 seconds of the shooting clock ( see the Shot Clock ). Consequently, by "indirectly" leading to points, we mean that a fumble recovery or interception return immediately led to a set offense play which culminated in a field goal in the second sequence of the shooting clock, after 6/8 seconds play till 24; the turnover did not produce any points in and of itself, but the opponent team did score on the ensuing offensive play. "

To continue with the topic and the seconds sequences of the Turnover Points go to the Global basketball Directory.


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For the Points Off Turnovers stats the eBA basketball Statistics Creative Analysis System consider those turnovers leading directly to a score, in the current possession, in the first 4/6 seconds of the shot clock .
 Smiley   Brian Denver - ebastats - the basketball statistics forum

 

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This post RESUMES the topic.


To Resume this topic, we can read at this eBA Recommended Site: CyberSports USA the following: "Similar to points scored and rebounds, the number of turnovers is a misleading statistic. For turnover statistics to be of value the number of offensive possessions must be considered. Turnovers percentage (turnovers/possessions)  is the true indication of a team's ball handling performance. Normally, you would like to keep your turnovers percentage under 10%.


However, if you play an up-tempo game you can expect a higher turnover percentage (15% to 20%). This higher turnover percentage, in most cases, is offset by a higher field goal percentage resulting from more transition lay-ups. When analyzing ball handling performance, it is also vital to look at the number of opponent points allowed off turnovers. Similar to an offensive rebound, teams must capitalize and score off turnovers for them to be of value. If a team recovers and makes a defensive stop after a turnover, that turnover is cancelled or erased. Conversely, on defense, you need to evaluate the opponent’s turnover percentage and the points you are scoring off their turnovers." Read More at CyberSports USA.

This summary resumes & closes this topic and will be completed at the "Statistics" chapter of the eBA basketball Statistics Analysis System.  Another basketball statistics topics you'll find at the basketball Statistics Discussions section of our eBA Stats.com site.

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