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In my opinion a team is said to have a possession when it has interrupted and complete control of the ball. A possession ends when a field goal is attempted, when there is a turnover, on a jump ball, or after a free throw that is not the first of two. That's ok?


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There is another definition of Possession , and from the analysis of both definitions we can begin to discuss the topic:
Possession for a team, it is the period of play between when one team gains control of the ball and when the other team gains control of the ball. For an individual, a possession or part of a possession is credited when that individual causes to end his/her team's possession.

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When using possessions to rate offenses and defenses, an excellent exercise in getting to know Basketball, the benefits of the definition of my friend Brian Denver become clear.
We'll analyze the following 2 situations: 1) A  player brings the ball up court, takes a 20 foot jump shot and makes it. 2) A player brings the ball upcourt, takes a 20 foot jump shot and misses, but a teammate rebounds, misses the putback, then get his own rebound and finally puts in a lay-up.
The first situation involves one scoring possession and one total possession regardless of which definition is used.
The second situation has one scoring and one total possession using Denver's Definition. Using the other meaning, the second situation involves one scoring possession and three total possessions.
Now, which situation represented the better offense ?


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An offense's job is to score as many points as possible before the opponents take control of the ball (go on offense). If you can agree to that, then situations 1 & 2 represent offenses with equal efficiency. Both times the offense came away with two points before the opponents played offense.


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And looking in another way, in the first situation, the offense did one "good" thing (made one shot) and nothing "bad". In the second situation, the offense did three "good" things (one field goal and two offensive rebounds) and two "bad" things ( two missed field goal attempts), netting one "good" thing.
Looking at end results, and here "the end justifies the means", it can't be disputed that the situations represent offenses of equal quality.


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About the Concept: As you can read at our Possessions Analysis:
Definition of Possession:  the time your team gets the ball, all the way up until the other team gets it back. At least for the purpose of this number, offensive rebounds don’t add possessions. This is comprehensible, since to determine the cost of a turnover, for instance, we want to know what the total chance there was that you’d score some points before the other team got the ball back. That includes getting offensive rebounds, since the turnover eliminates the possibility of getting second chance points just as it did first chance points.

About the Formula: The total number of possessions a team has can be calculated as

Field Goals Made + Opp Def. Rebounds + Turnovers + Up to the Line for 2/3-points)

Meanwhile another formulas use the coefficient "FTA / 2" or "FTA*0.4", etc., the eBA System uses the exact number of possession ended "up to the line" for 2 or 3 throws.

Discussion: This formula, with the "up to the line" coefficient, was basically created because we felt it was a better evaluation of offensive and defensive efficiency than to count stats like total rebounds, or total points scored or allowed or divide the free throws attempts by estimates number of "2" or multiply by "0.4". 
About the rebounds formulas, you hear talk about "win the rebound war, win the game" what is in general true, but not always.  The addition of the 3 point shot to the game of Basketball causes to re-estimate the value the formula as well.  If in short a team has the opportunity to score at least 3 points on every possession, instead of two, so  we have added an additional variable into the equation. 
An additional way of thoughts is that by using FGA as a loss of possession, a possession is lost every time a ball is shot.  As a result a new possession starts with an offensive rebound.  This works against a good offensive rebounding team because it punishes their Points / Possession evaluation. 
To resume this question,  as said above, from the moment there is discrepancy between the number of free throws attempted per game so that the FTA/2 or FTA*0.4 is not always an evaluation according to the rules, since on any given night the number of 1, 2, or 3 free throw attempts for each fouled possession will vary.  The eBA System uses the exact number of possession ended "up to the line" for 2 or 3 throws as a better measure regardless of the total number of attempts.   



Commentary: Consequently many coaches are now using what is called Points/Possession, or Turnovers/Possession.  The Pts/Poss. is an impartial reliable stat when all things are considered. 
However it doesn't take into account the optimal pace as which a team plays.   Team A that receives 90 points may actually produce a better defensive efficiency than team B that allowed 80 points:  in a fast paced game, Team A received 90 points but in 90 possessions.  This means their defensive efficiency was 1.0.  Team B on the other hand received only 80 points but in a much slower paced game in 60 total possessions.  That is a defensive efficiency of 1.3 actually worse than team A who allowed ninety points.

Points per possession is a completely good stat but what is more important is to break it down into ranges such as an offensive or defensive efficiency when you score or allow 90-100 points, 80-90, 70-80 and so forth.  The parameter we will find is that the team have better offensive and defensive efficiency ratings when he plays at its team's optimal pace.  The eBA System do this break down in his "Quarters Reports", when the game is analyzed every 5 minutes by separate.

This summary resumes this topic and will be completed at the "Statistics" chapter of the eBA Basketball Statistics Analysis System.  Another Basketball statistics topics you'll find at the Basketball Statistics Discussions section of our eBA Stats.com site.

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